Season Two
Lower Notes of Relativity
How do you know what you know? How do you love yourself by paying attention? How do you navigate dissonance without forcing harmony?
Not the hushed reverence of libraries. Not the performative discourse of conference halls. Something in between—where a therapist asks "Where do you feel that in your body?" and the answer is "My cells feel green and electric." Where someone DJs a wedding and discovers that a single word contains an entire world. Where a half-birthday becomes a threshold, and dissonance becomes information instead of failure.
Season Two emerged from a single conversation between Rachel (a neurodiversity specialist in Wisconsin) and BK (preparing for his third pilgrimage to India). They met at a warm data training in Berkeley, stayed in touch, and one afternoon decided to record what happened when they talked.
What emerged wasn't an interview. It was a mutual discovery process—two people thinking out loud about how you actually learn when nobody taught you how, how you love yourself by paying attention, and why the most solid foundations need to be the most flexible.
The Three Rabbit Holes
We started noticing patterns. Three rabbit holes that kept appearing in different forms:
First: How do you learn your own way of learning? Not "find the right teacher" learning, but discovering your own epistemology—the way YOU process information, the way YOUR body holds wisdom, the path that works for you even when it doesn't work for anyone else.
Second: What happens when you turn that discovery process onto yourself? When you learn to observe yourself without immediately judging, fixing, or changing? When attention becomes love?
Third: How do you navigate the spaces between harmony and dissonance? When things don't resolve neatly? When you need to hold tension without forcing resolution? When the foundation itself needs flexibility?
Rabbit Hole One: Personal Epistemology
How do you know what you know?
The Central Question: Why do some of us have to unlearn how to learn before we can actually learn anything?
For people whose nervous systems don't match the standard educational model—neurodivergent people, embodied learners, those who need to discover rather than be taught—the question "How do I learn?" becomes existential.
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S2 E01
Nobody Taught Me This in School
10:57
Core Insight: Learning isn't reception—it's the reciprocity between outer information and inner integration.
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S2 E02
Embodied Semantics
11:19
Core Insight: We create unnecessary conflict by assuming our definitions are THE definitions.
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S2 E03
Your Cells Feel Green and Electric
10:26
Core Insight: The standard pathway to embodied awareness doesn't work for everyone. Your adaptation is valid.
Rabbit Hole Two: Meta-Awareness as Practice
What happens when you learn to watch yourself without fixing yourself?
The Central Question: What if the way you pay attention to yourself is how you love yourself?
For people who've been locked out of their own bodies—through trauma, neurodivergence, cultural conditioning, or the simple fact that the standard somatic practices don't work—the question "How do I access my body?" becomes urgent.
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S2 E04
Discovery-Centered Everything
11:55
Core Insight: Framing life as discovery-centered doesn't reject teaching—it centers the emergence that happens when outer information meets inner wisdom.
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S2 E05
Ocular Conclusion
13:34
Core Insight: Rushing to meaning creates bad meaning. Slowing down allows for nuance and complexity.
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S2 E06
Observation as Love
11:34
Core Insight: The more you can love yourself through observation, the more you can love others through witnessing.
Rabbit Hole Three: Navigating Harmony & Dissonance
How do we move between states without needing perfect pitch?
The Central Question: What if the most solid foundations need to be the most flexible?
Miles Davis: "It's the note AFTER the dissonant note that matters." Music physics: lower notes have more relativity, higher notes have less room for interpretation.
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S2 E07
Lower Notes Have More Relativity
12:57
Core Insight: Complex, precise structures at the top require flexible, resonant foundations at the bottom.
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S2 E08
Inflection Points
10:46
Core Insight: Inflection points aren't when things change—they're when you NOTICE they've changed.
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S2 E09
The Note After the Dissonant Note
14:19
Core Insight: The skill isn't staying in harmony—the skill is returning to harmony after dissonance.
Themes Across the Season
- Reciprocity: Inner and outer. Self and other. Harmony and dissonance. The constant dance between polarities.
- Discovery vs. Instruction: Framing learning, healing, growth as discovery-centered rather than instruction-centered.
- Observation as Love: The quality of attention you bring to yourself and others is how you love.
- Flexibility in Foundations: The more fundamental something is, the more relativity it needs.
- Both/And: You can dance AND harmonize. Hold dissonance AND find beauty. The false binary is the problem.
Credits
Season 2 Conversations: Rachel (Wisconsin) and BK (Richmond, VA)
Recording Location: Various coffee shops, Richmond, Virginia — December 2024
Production: The Present of Work